• Harley tips.

    From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to All on Sun Jun 23 18:15:55 2013
    Started having some battery related problems this week with my Harley. First noticed different sounding starts - like it was struggling to crank.

    Was going to go out with my wife on Friday evening and it wouldn't start - just
    after riding it home from work.

    Since my battery is 8 years old, I figured that was the first place to start. Replaced the battery - all was well - at least I thought.

    Went on a long cruize into PA with a friend, stopped for gas, and it wouldn't re-start. Thankfully Progressive Insurance pulled through and in 20 minutes, got me a hot shot.

    We then rode straight back home - about a 1 1/2hr trip one way. Rode it straight to the shop where I bought it, since he is going to check it out.

    The timing was perfect, as my lights dimmed, odometer went out, check engine light came on, just as I was riding down the street to his shop.

    The problem is either the stator or the voltage regulator. I won't know for sure until he checks it out, but I'm just about certain it is one of them.

    Since I don't want to get stranded again, I want to make sure someone that is an expert checks it. :)

    At least it happened next to a sub shop, and right next to that was a beer distributor. Got to have a few beers and wait until they arrived for the hot-shot.

    It was still a fun ride and had a great time dispite the issue.

    I should know the results tomorrow on what needs to be replaced.

    - Mark

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Mark Hofmann on Mon Jun 24 00:51:00 2013
    Mark Hofmann wrote to All <=-


    Started having some battery related problems this week with my Harley. First noticed different sounding starts - like it was struggling to
    crank.

    Was going to go out with my wife on Friday evening and it wouldn't
    start - just after riding it home from work.

    Since my battery is 8 years old, I figured that was the first place to start. Replaced the battery - all was well - at least I thought.

    Went on a long cruize into PA with a friend, stopped for gas, and it wouldn't re-start. Thankfully Progressive Insurance pulled through and
    in 20 minutes, got me a hot shot.

    We then rode straight back home - about a 1 1/2hr trip one way. Rode
    it straight to the shop where I bought it, since he is going to check
    it out.

    The timing was perfect, as my lights dimmed, odometer went out, check engine light came on, just as I was riding down the street to his shop.

    The problem is either the stator or the voltage regulator. I won't
    know for sure until he checks it out, but I'm just about certain it is
    one of them.

    Since I don't want to get stranded again, I want to make sure someone
    that is an expert checks it. :)

    At least it happened next to a sub shop, and right next to that was a
    beer distributor. Got to have a few beers and wait until they arrived
    for the hot-shot.

    It was still a fun ride and had a great time dispite the issue.

    I should know the results tomorrow on what needs to be replaced.

    Here are a few tips for checking the stator...

    For grounded stator...

    Turn off the motorcycle's ignition and disconnect the plug leading from the voltage regulator to the crankcase. Measure the resistance between one hole on the stator plug and a known ground point on the motorcycle. Ensure that the meter is reading resistance on the Rx1 setting. Verify that there is no continuity between the stator plug and ground. Any reading other than zero means that your stator is bad. Measure the resistance in between both holes on the stator plug. The meter should indicate 0.1 to 0.2 ohms across the socket. A lower resistance means that the stator is bad.

    For output....

    Start the motorcycle. Leave the plug from the voltage regulator to the crankcase disconnected. Run the engine at approximately 2,000 RPM. Measure the AC output from the stator plug with the digital multimeter set to read "Volts AC". Check that the output is 32-40 volts. If it's not between those two readings, then replace the alternator.


    Voltage regualtor tests as follows. You're going to need a trouble indicator light and the multimeter again.

    With the regulator unplugged, touch the trouble light to a ground and each of the pins in the regulator plug one at a time. The regualtor is bad if the light comes on for any of the pins. If no lights come on, then you can do a voltage output test. Replug the regualtor, start the motor in neutral and place the postive and negative leads on the respective battery posts. Rev to 3300 RPM. You should get a reading of 14.3-14.7 volts. If not within this rage, then replace the regulator.

    Hope this helps in the future.





    Bill

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  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Bill McGarrity on Tue Jun 25 16:55:10 2013
    Here are a few tips for checking the stator...


    Thanks for the electrical troubleshooting tips on the stator and voltage regulator, Bill.

    I found out this morning that both the stator and voltage regulator are bad. You can smell the burnt up stator when opening the inspection cover.

    Not sure if the voltage regulator killed the stator, or a near overheating instance I had about a month ago added to it.

    Next time a highway is closed from an accident, I plan on pulling to the side and side sooner.

    I don't know if that had anything to do with it since it was around a month ago. Either way, this is the first repair on the bike I have had since I owned
    it (8 years). It is also 10 years old now, so I can't complain.

    The parts are going to be close to $400, so I'm expecting a $800 repair bill.

    I'm looking at getting an additional bike (HD touring style) in the next year or so. Electra Glide or Ultra Classic most likely.

    - Mark

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Mark Hofmann on Wed Jun 26 16:08:00 2013
    Mark Hofmann wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Here are a few tips for checking the stator...


    Thanks for the electrical troubleshooting tips on the stator and
    voltage regulator, Bill.

    Welcome... At least you'll know what to look for in the future IF it ever happens again. :)


    I found out this morning that both the stator and voltage regulator are bad. You can smell the burnt up stator when opening the inspection
    cover.

    Not sure if the voltage regulator killed the stator, or a near
    overheating instance I had about a month ago added to it.

    Next time a highway is closed from an accident, I plan on pulling to
    the side and side sooner.

    I had the same issue once with cam slack adjusters. Mine is a 2003 and had the old spring type. Got stuck in traffic during the HOTTEST day of the year and damn near melted them. They were old so I can't blame it completely on the heat. Have gear driven now. :)

    I don't know if that had anything to do with it since it was around a month ago. Either way, this is the first repair on the bike I have had since I owned it (8 years). It is also 10 years old now, so I can't complain.

    Not bad... :)

    The parts are going to be close to $400, so I'm expecting a $800 repair bill.

    Sounds about right. I try and do all the work myself. J&P Cycles is good for parts.

    I'm looking at getting an additional bike (HD touring style) in the
    next year or so. Electra Glide or Ultra Classic most likely.

    I have a Heritage now... I'd love to get an '03 Ultra. As you can see I have an affection for 100th Anniversary editions.. :)

    Be well.. and ride safe...


    Bill

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  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Bill McGarrity on Thu Jan 8 14:13:49 2015
    With the regulator unplugged, touch the trouble light to a ground and
    each of the pins in the regulator plug one at a time. The regualtor is
    bad if the light comes on for any of the pins. If no lights come on, then you can do a voltage output test. Replug the regualtor, start the motor
    in neutral and place the postive and negative leads on the respective battery posts. Rev to 3300 RPM. You should get a reading of 14.3-14.7 volts. If not within this rage, then replace the regulator.

    Hope this helps in the future.

    Thanks for the detailed steps on testing the stator / alternator. Back when this problem happened on my bike, I rode it directly to the shop. I never attempted the testing or replacement myself.

    - Mark

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Mark Hofmann on Thu Jan 8 16:36:00 2015
    On 01-08-15 14:13, Mark Hofmann wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    With the regulator unplugged, touch the trouble light to a ground and
    each of the pins in the regulator plug one at a time. The regualtor is
    bad if the light comes on for any of the pins. If no lights come on, then you can do a voltage output test. Replug the regualtor, start the motor
    in neutral and place the postive and negative leads on the respective battery posts. Rev to 3300 RPM. You should get a reading of 14.3-14.7 volts. If not within this rage, then replace the regulator.

    Hope this helps in the future.

    Thanks for the detailed steps on testing the stator / alternator. Back when this problem happened on my bike, I rode it directly to the shop.
    I never attempted the testing or replacement myself.

    Welcome... now you know.. :)


    Bill

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