• Those Pesky Rulz

    From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to All Y'All on Mon Jul 1 01:30:00 2013
    The Automotive Echo
    EchoTag: AUTOMOTIVE

    This version 1.1.3 edited : (June 28, 2013)

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:387/22 (autoham22@yahoo.com)

    John Pummill, Moderator Emeritus (1989-99)

    :C (changed since last revision)
    :D (summary of deleted material)
    :N (new since last revision)

    The AUTOMOTIVE Conference Rulz
    ------------------------------

    Just a note on the 'Car Wars' that almost always comes up in
    the discussion of anything automotive. The bashing of any
    manufacturer or make of automobile is inevitable and, I guess
    acceptable, but don't make a big deal about it. Life goes on
    and someone's choice of basic transportation, race car or a fan
    of another manufacturer, is their own bag.

    I don't care if you drive American iron and hate Jap junk or
    you drive Japanese perfection and think everything else is
    crap, just don't bash the guy who owns something you don't
    like. By the same token, don't be put off by someone who
    doesn't like your choice, that's life.

    We're here to discuss our automotive common interests and help
    each other with problems when they come up. Let's keep it
    friendly and help those who come along, asking for our help.

    With that, here are the rules;

    1. Keep to the topic. I know we are all people and will
    occasionally get bent out of shape with some off topic
    conversations from time to time. (who was it that was having
    a Howitzer conversation in here...) Please keep these off
    topic threads short and sweet.

    The topic IS anything AUTOMOTIVE, but, I'm open minded enough
    that, if you can tie whatever else into the world of cars and
    anything automotive, I usually won't say anything. Motorcycle
    discussions are welcome. This echo is not just for 1/4 mile
    automobiles.

    2. Cars and profanity sometimes go hand in hand in the real world.
    However, this was Pummill's World and he asked that profanity
    be kept to a BARE minimum.

    3. If someone asks a "stupid" question, do NOT flame them or you
    will get REAL nasty netmail from me. The idea is to bring
    MORE people into the world of automotive knowledge, not drive
    them away with snide comments. If you cannot say anything nice
    then keep the fingers away from the Reply key.

    4. You may post 'personal' items for sale here. If someone asks if
    anyone else has an automotive item for sale, -anyone- (personal
    or commercial, whether in fidonet on the WWW or owns, manages a
    store, etc.), may post a reply to it. If you have a commercial
    text file all set up for that, so beit.

    N: 5. I reserve the right to alter the rules as is deemed necessary on
    N: on the fly, due to changes in the atmosphere of the echo.

    N: Arguing a moot point of contention to prove you're right, no
    N: matter what, does not give you the right to do so in the echo.
    N: That is what netmail and email are for. You will receive only
    N: one warning before you're issued walking papers for this violation..

    N: Typing in all CAPS is not considered to be proper etiquette and
    N: very rude in the moderator's opinion, as is extra punctuation marks
    N: and will not be tollerated unless done so in a friendly manner.
    N: In any case you will receive a slap on the hand by the moderator in
    N: the echo if you do so.

    6. This echo may not be gated out of Fidonet in any shape, form,
    or fashion without the moderators consent.

    7. These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I see necessary.

    8. Fidonet Zone 2 Sysops and users, take note;

    It has come to the attention of this moderator that an echomail
    policy, specifically EchoPol 1 and hereafter referred to as EP1,
    is in force in Zone 2.

    Be advised that this echomail policy is not binding in Zone 1,
    nor this echo. Zone 2 Sysops, by posting in this echo hereby
    forfeit any rights of protection provided under the auspices of
    EchoPol 1.

    If Z2 BBS's who carry this echo differ in their opinion of EP1 and
    that of this echo's moderator, I suggest that you not carrry this
    echo on your BBS. If you're a Z2 participant of this echo and your
    opinion of EP1 differs from that of the moderator of this echo, I
    suggest that you not participate in this echo.

    And now, the "teeth":

    As your Moderator, I would like to confine my moderatorial
    C: duties to updating the echolistings as required; I do not wish
    to spend a great deal of time "keeping order."

    Disruptions, abusiveness or violations of the rules will be
    dealt with by the Moderator only, in a manner he deems most
    fit.

    Questions? Problems? I read and answer netmail and email,
    the address is posted above. Having said that, all it really
    takes to enjoy this echo can be said in a few words:

    Be nice to each other and have fun here.

    - - - - - - - - - - L E G A L N O T I C E - - - - - - - - - -

    These Rules, the AUTOMOTIVE echo TAG and the contents herein are
    copyright by Roy Witt. Echo participants and Echomail Distribution
    systems and/or their assigns may include these rules and the echo
    TAG in their day to day business correspondence, but may not change
    any portion (t)herin without prior written consent from Roy Witt.

    N: You will find a listing for the AUTOMOTIVE echo in the new Zone One
    N: Echolist, managed by Ben Ritchey at node 1:1/21. This echo is carried
    N: by the various backbones by mutual agreement between the moderators
    N: and those various backbones.

    D: You will not find a listing for the AUTOMOTIVE echo in the now
    D: defunct so-called Zone One Echolist. This echo is carried by
    D: various backbones by mutual agreement between the moderators and
    D: the backbones.

    This echo may not be listed by any Elisting entity to imply their
    legal use of the echo TAG, these RULZ or any content of the echo
    messages.
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    EOF



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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to All Y'All on Mon May 5 17:30:15 2014
    The Automotive Echo
    EchoTag: AUTOMOTIVE

    This version 1.1.4 edited : (May 1, 2014)

    Your Host and Moderator

    :C Roy Witt 1:387/22 (38722@satx.rr.com)

    John Pummill, Moderator Emeritus (1989-99)

    :C (changed since last revision)
    :D (summary of deleted material)
    :N (new since last revision)

    The AUTOMOTIVE Conference Rulz
    ------------------------------

    Just a note on the 'Car Wars' that almost always comes up in
    the discussion of anything automotive. The bashing of any
    manufacturer or make of automobile is inevitable and, I guess
    acceptable, but don't make a big deal about it. Life goes on
    and someone's choice of basic transportation, race car or a fan
    of another manufacturer, is their own bag.

    I don't care if you drive American iron and hate Jap junk or
    you drive Japanese perfection and think everything else is
    crap, just don't bash the guy who owns something you don't
    like. By the same token, don't be put off by someone who
    doesn't like your choice, that's life.

    We're here to discuss our automotive common interests and help
    each other with problems when they come up. Let's keep it
    friendly and help those who come along, asking for our help.

    With that, here are the rules;

    1. Keep to the topic. I know we are all people and will
    occasionally get bent out of shape with some off topic
    conversations from time to time. (who was it that was having
    a Howitzer conversation in here...) Please keep these off
    topic threads short and sweet.

    The topic IS anything AUTOMOTIVE, but, I'm open minded enough
    that, if you can tie whatever else into the world of cars and
    anything automotive, I usually won't say anything. Motorcycle
    discussions are welcome. This echo is not just for 1/4 mile
    automobiles.

    2. Cars and profanity sometimes go hand in hand in the real world.
    However, this was Pummill's World and he asked that profanity
    be kept to a BARE minimum.

    3. If someone asks a "stupid" question, do NOT flame them or you
    will get REAL nasty netmail from me. The idea is to bring
    MORE people into the world of automotive knowledge, not drive
    them away with snide comments. If you cannot say anything nice
    then keep the fingers away from the Reply key.

    4. You may post 'personal' items for sale here. If someone asks if
    anyone else has an automotive item for sale, -anyone- (personal
    or commercial, whether in fidonet on the WWW or owns, manages a
    store, etc.), may post a reply to it. If you have a commercial
    text file all set up for that, so beit.

    5. I reserve the right to alter the rules as is deemed necessary on
    on the fly, due to changes in the atmosphere of the echo.

    Arguing a moot point of contention to prove you're right, no
    matter what, does not give you the right to do so in the echo.
    That is what netmail and email are for. You will receive only
    one warning before you're issued walking papers for this violation..

    Typing in all CAPS is not considered to be proper etiquette and
    very rude in the moderator's opinion, as is extra punctuation marks
    and will not be tollerated unless done so in a friendly manner.
    In any case you will receive a slap on the hand by the moderator in
    the echo if you do so.

    6. This echo may not be gated out of Fidonet in any shape, form,
    or fashion without the moderators consent.

    7. These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I see necessary.

    8. Fidonet Zone 2 Sysops and users, take note;

    It has come to the attention of this moderator that an echomail
    policy, specifically EchoPol 1 and hereafter referred to as EP1,
    is in force in Zone 2.

    Be advised that this echomail policy is not binding in Zone 1,
    nor this echo. Zone 2 Sysops, by posting in this echo hereby
    forfeit any rights of protection provided under the auspices of
    EchoPol 1.

    If Z2 BBS's who carry this echo differ in their opinion of EP1 and
    that of this echo's moderator, I suggest that you not carrry this
    echo on your BBS. If you're a Z2 participant of this echo and your
    opinion of EP1 differs from that of the moderator of this echo, I
    suggest that you not participate in this echo.

    And now, the "teeth":

    As your Moderator, I would like to confine my moderatorial
    duties to updating the echolistings as required; I do not wish
    to spend a great deal of time "keeping order."

    Disruptions, abusiveness or violations of the rules will be
    dealt with by the Moderator only, in a manner he deems most
    fit.

    Questions? Problems? I read and answer netmail and email,
    the address is posted above. Having said that, all it really
    takes to enjoy this echo can be said in a few words:

    Be nice to each other and have fun here.

    - - - - - - - - - - L E G A L N O T I C E - - - - - - - - - -

    These Rules, the AUTOMOTIVE echo TAG and the contents herein are
    copyright by Roy Witt. Echo participants and Echomail Distribution
    systems and/or their assigns may include these rules and the echo
    TAG in their day to day business correspondence, but may not change
    any portion (t)herin without prior written consent from Roy Witt.

    You will find a listing for the AUTOMOTIVE echo in the new Zone One
    Echolist, managed by Ben Ritchey at node 1:1/21. This echo is carried
    by the various backbones by mutual agreement between the moderators
    and those various backbones.

    This echo may not be listed by any Elisting entity to imply their
    legal use of the echo TAG, these RULZ or any content of the echo
    messages.
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    EOF



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  • From ED KOON@1:123/140 to ROY WITT on Sat Aug 16 12:54:08 2014
    Feeling lonesome here?

    I'm surprised there is no traffic here.

    Regards, Doc.

    The Automotive Echo
    EchoTag: AUTOMOTIVE

    This version 1.1.4 edited : (May 1, 2014)

    Your Host and Moderator

    :C Roy Witt 1:387/22
    (38722@satx.rr.com)

    John Pummill, Moderator Emeritus
    (1989-99)

    :C (changed since last revision)
    :D (summary of deleted material)
    :N (new since last revision)

    The AUTOMOTIVE Conference Rulz
    ------------------------------

    Just a note on the 'Car Wars' that almost always
    comes up in
    the discussion of anything automotive. The
    bashing of any
    manufacturer or make of automobile is inevitable
    and, I guess
    acceptable, but don't make a big deal about it.
    Life goes on
    and someone's choice of basic transportation,
    race car or a fan
    of another manufacturer, is their own bag.

    I don't care if you drive American iron and hate
    Jap junk or
    you drive Japanese perfection and think
    everything else is
    crap, just don't bash the guy who owns something
    you don't
    like. By the same token, don't be put off by
    someone who
    doesn't like your choice, that's life.

    We're here to discuss our automotive common
    interests and help
    each other with problems when they come up.
    Let's keep it
    friendly and help those who come along, asking
    for our help.

    With that, here are the rules;

    1. Keep to the topic. I know we are all people and
    will
    occasionally get bent out of shape with some off
    topic
    conversations from time to time. (who was it that
    was having
    a Howitzer conversation in here...) Please keep
    these off
    topic threads short and sweet.

    The topic IS anything AUTOMOTIVE, but, I'm open
    minded enough
    that, if you can tie whatever else into the world
    of cars and
    anything automotive, I usually won't say
    anything. Motorcycle
    discussions are welcome. This echo is not just
    for 1/4 mile
    automobiles.

    2. Cars and profanity sometimes go hand in hand in
    the real world.
    However, this was Pummill's World and he asked
    that profanity
    be kept to a BARE minimum.

    3. If someone asks a "stupid" question, do NOT flame
    them or you
    will get REAL nasty netmail from me. The idea is
    to bring
    MORE people into the world of automotive
    knowledge, not drive
    them away with snide comments. If you cannot say
    anything nice
    then keep the fingers away from the Reply key.

    4. You may post 'personal' items for sale here. If
    someone asks if
    anyone else has an automotive item for sale, -
    anyone- (personal
    or commercial, whether in fidonet on the WWW or
    owns, manages a
    store, etc.), may post a reply to it. If you
    have a commercial
    text file all set up for that, so beit.

    5. I reserve the right to alter the rules as is
    deemed necessary on
    on the fly, due to changes in the atmosphere of
    the echo.

    Arguing a moot point of contention to prove
    you're right, no
    matter what, does not give you the right to do so
    in the echo.
    That is what netmail and email are for. You will
    receive only
    one warning before you're issued walking papers
    for this violation..

    Typing in all CAPS is not considered to be proper
    etiquette and
    very rude in the moderator's opinion, as is extra
    punctuation marks
    and will not be tollerated unless done so in a
    friendly manner.
    In any case you will receive a slap on the hand
    by the moderator in
    the echo if you do so.

    6. This echo may not be gated out of Fidonet in any
    shape, form,
    or fashion without the moderators consent.

    7. These rules are a living document and I reserve
    the right to
    change them as I see necessary.

    8. Fidonet Zone 2 Sysops and users, take note;

    It has come to the attention of this moderator
    that an echomail
    policy, specifically EchoPol 1 and hereafter
    referred to as EP1,
    is in force in Zone 2.

    Be advised that this echomail policy is not
    binding in Zone 1,
    nor this echo. Zone 2 Sysops, by posting in this
    echo hereby
    forfeit any rights of protection provided under
    the auspices of
    EchoPol 1.

    If Z2 BBS's who carry this echo differ in their
    opinion of EP1 and
    that of this echo's moderator, I suggest that you
    not carrry this
    echo on your BBS. If you're a Z2 participant of
    this echo and your
    opinion of EP1 differs from that of the moderator
    of this echo, I
    suggest that you not participate in this echo.

    And now, the "teeth":

    As your Moderator, I would like to confine my
    moderatorial
    duties to updating the echolistings as required;
    I do not wish
    to spend a great deal of time "keeping order."

    Disruptions, abusiveness or violations of the
    rules will be
    dealt with by the Moderator only, in a manner he
    deems most
    fit.

    Questions? Problems? I read and answer netmail
    and email,
    the address is posted above. Having said that,
    all it really
    takes to enjoy this echo can be said in a few
    words:

    Be nice to each other and have fun here.

    - - - - - - - - - - L E G A L N O T I C E - - -
    - - - - - - -

    These Rules, the AUTOMOTIVE echo TAG and the
    contents herein are
    copyright by Roy Witt. Echo participants and
    Echomail Distribution
    systems and/or their assigns may include these rules
    and the echo
    TAG in their day to day business correspondence, but
    may not change
    any portion (t)herin without prior written consent
    from Roy Witt.

    You will find a listing for the AUTOMOTIVE echo in
    the new Zone One
    Echolist, managed by Ben Ritchey at node 1:1/21.
    This echo is carried
    by the various backbones by mutual agreement between
    the moderators
    and those various backbones.

    This echo may not be listed by any Elisting entity
    to imply their
    legal use of the echo TAG, these RULZ or any content
    of the echo
    messages.
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    - - - - - - - -
    EOF



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  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Ed Koon on Thu May 21 13:58:05 2015
    Feeling lonesome here?

    I'm surprised there is no traffic here.

    There should be some traffic here now. :)

    I wanted to see who was still around, invite new and old people to re-join, etc. I miss the auto discussions and want to carry it on since Roy's passing.

    - Mark

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